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big table of fuel line comparisons on own page?313:25, 21 February 2023
BSFC section117:49, 22 May 2020
Fuel Lines314:10, 21 May 2020
Sould we break this up into multiple articles?312:41, 20 May 2020
chem extension?316:14, 17 May 2020
Old Outline012:16, 16 May 2020

big table of fuel line comparisons on own page?

seems ugly bc so big... maybe move to own page or try to beautify

SpookySimon (talk)11:08, 16 February 2023

I fixed the formatting a little bit but it's still not ideal. Maybe we could get rid of the cost column since that's probably pretty subjective?

Satiric (talk)23:25, 20 February 2023

good call, doubt the prices have stayed or will stay constant either.. I'll comment it out and we can see how it looks

SpookySimon (talk)13:19, 21 February 2023

Min bend radius column is throwing me, the header is like 30 characters wide and the actual column content is like 3 or 4 characters wide making it looks really sparse... idk

SpookySimon (talk)13:25, 21 February 2023
 
 
 

BSFC section

There is a Math extension that can be used to reformat these variables. Use "<math>" to call it. You can find the syntax in the table of extensions on the Fswiki page.

Emily Anthony (talk)17:00, 22 May 2020

yeah, I'd have thought I'd get around to it before now too.

SpookySimon (talk)17:49, 22 May 2020
 

Fuel Lines

Creating a comparison table would be valuable here but should be backed up with sources. Anyone have any resources on price breakdowns of hard vs soft lines for example, or datasheets from suppliers outlining pressure capacity?

Emily Anthony (talk)16:05, 17 May 2020

they dont seem to be 100% consistent across suppliers or diameter, but i'll try to note each in the table

SpookySimon (talk)16:42, 17 May 2020

I created a comparison table for the qualities of the line types. I spitballed the numbers here and it would be nice if someone took a look at them and backed them up or adjusted them.

Emily Anthony (talk)13:11, 20 May 2020

the way we used to do these kinds of charts were to use the hard numbers and normalize to the largest so everything is <1 to keep the numbers comparable across chriteria, and so we didn't just give our favorite high numbers. not sure how we'd do manufacturability or reusability objectively though. might have to just be crowd consensus. I'll see if i can dig up an objective alternative/addition to the subjective characteristics.

SpookySimon (talk)14:10, 21 May 2020
 
 
 

Sould we break this up into multiple articles?

The article is already quite long while many chapters are basically empty. I'd say we need dedicated articles for fuel storage, injectors, pump and pressure, and maybe strategy. what do you guys think?

Marius (talk)06:07, 20 May 2020

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I think if you have really specific information to add (rabbit-hole stuff like specific injector flow rates, flow profiles, or maybe when we get around to injector angle and vaporization) thats a good place for a separate article on injectors, as long as it's system level, i think it warrants being on the same page. I think there's a lot about fueling that warrants its own article, i just think we might not be there yet.

The good thing about this wiki is that you can go ahead and try it, and see if it's better!

SpookySimon (talk)08:54, 20 May 2020
 

Fuel strategy should have its own page as it's talking about the competition event.

Emily Anthony (talk)12:41, 20 May 2020
 

chem extension?

currently using math to do the chem - cant find a current chem extension, don't know how to navigate the wiki documentation very well, my brain is too smooth

SpookySimon (talk)15:05, 17 May 2020

I'll shop around for something

Emily Anthony (talk)15:11, 17 May 2020
 

It looks like I can install this extension which expands on the Math extension we have now for chemistry support. When I get some time today on my computer I'll log into the server backend and install this and remove the Math extension. Because it's called the same way ("math" in carrots) it should not break anything you have already written.

https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SimpleMathJax/en

Emily Anthony (talk)15:40, 17 May 2020

okay! thanks for looking into it :)

SpookySimon (talk)16:14, 17 May 2020
 
 

Old Outline

   Basic stoich, LBT, lambda, octane and other jargon
   Charge mixing [put this here or in intake??]
   system design
       storage
       fuel lines (hard v soft v steel braided (ugh))
       pump and pressures
   pfi/dfi
   fuels avaiable at comp
       octane rating
   fuel strategies
   efficiency discussion here?
       consumption v thermal efficiency, BSFC
Toaster (talk)12:16, 16 May 2020